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Commentaires sur : Je viens de prendre ma première claque ! https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/ Tue, 24 Jan 2023 13:01:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.16 Par : jegogogo https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-1203 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:12:16 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-1203 Bonsoir à tous,

Parmi vous certains ont-ils eu recours au contrat de bail notarié qui a force exécutoire et permet les mesures d’exécution forcées auprès du locataire(comme la saisie sur compte bancaire) par huissier sans nécessite d’un jugement( et ainsi éviter les trop long délais de procédure)

Bye

J.

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Par : David S https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-599 Sun, 25 Jan 2015 08:13:23 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-599 En réponse à gibier de P.

Également 1 cas de loyers impayés depuis 10ans de « carrière » de bailleur. En plus du loyer impayé vous avez les frais de justice et 1 an de procédure… Si vous n’êtes pas sur place pour passer régulièrement mettre la pression…

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Par : David S https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-597 Sun, 25 Jan 2015 08:08:30 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-597 En réponse à gibier de P.

Bien vu merci gdp

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Par : Audrey https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-501 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:34:16 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-501 En réponse à Anissa.

Bonjour Anissa

Je me permets d’intervenir certes un peu tard mais pour répondre à votre question il ne faut pas laisser courir plus de 2 mois d’impayés.

Dès les premiers incidents de paiement il faut discuter avec son locataire et essayer de trouver un arrangement par téléphone puis par lettre recommandée avec AR.

S’il est de bonne foi il signera un plan d’apurement si non il faudra commencer la procédure d’expulsion.

Il faudra également informer la Caf puis un huissier.

Voilà bonne soirée

@micalement

Audrey

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Par : Daniel https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-392 Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:25:05 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-392 Ce qui est navrant c’est que c’est à cause de ce type d’attitude que les propriétaires sont amenés à avoir des exigences hors normes pour louer… (certes bien aidés par les diverses lois trop en faveur des locataires). J’ai eu le cas dans mon entourage d’un couple qui louait son bien et qui était prêt à faire ça sur la confiance… jusqu’aux premiers impayés et depuis ils sont beaucoup plus méfiants…

En plus ça participe à un climat de défiance riches propriétaires vs pauvres gens… C’est dommage, ça n’est pas un plus en faveur de notre pays tout ça…

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Par : Anissa https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-379 Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:03:18 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-379 Je retiens l’idée du faux recommandé!!!
A partir de quel moment passer faut il passer a l’action? Au cas ou…
Je trouve degeulasse le fait de payer un credit pour loger quelqu’un gratuitement surtout si nous avons investit sur un ou deux bien seulement

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Par : Guillaume https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-297 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:38:25 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-297 Pas mal la technique du faux recommandé 🙂
Bien entendu parfaitement illégale. C’est vrai que des fois on a bien envie de se faire justice soi-même.
Apparemment au Canada, il y aurait un fichier des locataires mauvais payeurs ! Cela doit en dissuader plus d’un…
Impossible de faire passer ce genre de liste en France. Les intellos bien pensant crieraient au scandale 🙂

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Par : gibier de P https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-291 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 15:48:43 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-291 suite … il va revenir vers vous, vous pouvez lui proposer de payer ses loyers pour récupérer ses affaires …. et vous lui dites que vous ne comprenez pas car vous avez reçu son préavis …. et qu’officiellement il est parti.
Il ne pourra pas vous attaquer, et si il le fait vous serez protéger car vous aurez son préavis ….. je doute néanmoins qu’il le fasse, il comprendra qu’il est tombé sur plus malin ….

bon courage en tout cas, ce type de problème est chronophage , et en plus ne vous attendez pas à retrouver votre appartement en bon état

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Par : gibier de P https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-290 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 15:37:44 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-290 A les impayés, vaste questions …. faut il être réglo, suivre la procédure ??? où prendre un chemin de traverse ….
Pour avoir suivi une procédure ( pas sur un bien à moi heureusement ) c’est une tannée …. comptez bien 1 bonne année et demi qd ca se passe super bien.

Dans celle ci le locataire avait quitté les lieux un mois après son entrée dans l’appartement et avait stoppé tout paiement et était parfaitement injoignable : comme nous étions certain d’être payé ( Garant Blindé, mais qui refusait de payer, en nous conseillant de faire expulser son fils : il voulait pas payer 6 ans de loyer ce que je peux comprendre ) on a du mener la procèdure en bonne et due forme: résultat départ 1 an et demi de procédure ( en étant au taquet derrière l’huissier)
C’est un cas un peu particulier car on savait que les sommes allaient in fine être réglés, mais quel galère.

Pour mes apparts, je prends des garants : je n’ai jamais eu de problème avec un locataire dont le garant était un parent proche … si il n’ y en pas il m’arrive de prendre la GRL ( le locataire doit gagner 2 fois le loyer en comptant la CAF), j’ai jamais testé une procédure avec la GRL, je vous dirai si ca fonctionne bien mais à mon avis c’est une tannée également.
Le seul cas d’impayé que j’ai eu , ( ni garant ni GRL) j’ai mis une pression folle sur le locataire : appel matin // midi // soir // message sur Rep // sms, visites constantes et il craqué 3 mois après …. malgré son départ je le relance encore régulièrement qui sait ??

Guillaume les prochaines lignes ne sont pas pour toi, mais plutôt pour tes lecteurs ( tu dois connaitre)

Ce qui faut bien comprendre c’est qu’il y a 2 types de mauvais payeur : les voyous très au fait des procèdures ( avec eux pas de discussion possible ils sont de mauvaises foi, il faut frapper fort tout de suite) : pression, changement de verrou ….

ceux qui traversent une passe difficile ( attention les voyous commencent toujours comme ça ) dans ce cas là il ne faut pas perdre le contact, au premier problème, proposer un échelonnement qu’il doit accepter et lui demander de le respecter scrupuleusement, et lui demander de vous contacter en cas de problème pour payer. Dans de nombreux cas si ils ne sont pas voyous ca se gère bien, si ils sont vraiement en difficulté les pousser à partir ….

J’ai une technique face aux voyous, elle permet de se « protéger  » juridiquement ( protéger c’est un très grand mot ) vous vous envoyer un recommandé au nom du locataire vous annonçant votre préavis de départ ( courrier taper à la machine )
Un jour d’abscence ( a nécessite un peu de repérage ) vous changer serrures et vider l’appartement

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Par : Guillaume https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/viens-prendre-premiere-claque/#comment-271 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 21:36:36 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=233#comment-271 En réponse à Toudoucement.

Je partage votre avis, je m’en sort plutôt bien sur pour un premier impayé.
A part les 4 h de ménage que j’ai du faire hier après midi, pour dégraisser (entre autres) la cuisine qui n’avait pas vu une éponge depuis 2 ans 🙁
Sans oublier le vieux frigo, la machine à laver HS, le clic clac défoncé, la paire de pneus usés, l’huile de vidange et les 4 sacs poubelles que j’ai du emmener moi-même à la déchetterie.
Je ne savais pas qu’avoir soit-disant des problèmes financiers donnait le droit d’être un gros dégueulasse….
Investissez dans la pierre disait-il ! 🙂

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