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Commentaires sur : J’ai lâché 132 000 € à mon proprio ! https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/ Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:02:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.16 Par : Guillaume du 44 https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113178 Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:02:49 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113178 Bonjour Guillaume,

Je me prénomme également Guillaume, je suis natif du bordelais (canton de Fronsac) et ai quitté la région il y a maintenant 12 ans pour m’installer sur Nantes. J’ai découvert ton blog tout récemment et regrette de ne pas l’avoir découvert avant. J’arrive en fin de projet, je n’ai plus qu’une tranche de gros travaux à réaliser sur notre immeuble et regarde pour la suite.

Quand je suis arrivé sur Nantes j’ai vécut un peu plus de deux ans en colocation de 4 chambres, qui me couté 300€ tout compris par mois (eau, élec, internet), j’économisai alors pour faire un tour du monde et dans le même temps ai revu ma première petite copine (qui venait de Bergerac et habitait à Nantes) et qui est aujourd’hui mon épouse depuis bientôt 10 ans…

La vie en colocation me plaisait mais moins a mon épouse et encore moins à notre couple, nous avons alors acheté un appartement de 1900 à retaper entièrement, puis une ferme de 600m² bâti au sol trop loin de tout. Puis un garage , puis nous avons acheté un petit immeuble et revendu la ferme, l’appartement (retapé) et le garage (rétrospectivement ces 2 achats étaient des conneries Ferme+Garage).

L’immeuble acheté était en mauvais état composé d’un T5, T3 et T2 pour un total d’environ 200m² dans un quartier très sympa au Nord de Nantes, (pour situer le quartier ressemblerai un peu à Cauderan sur Bordeaux). Nous avons un petit jardin et habitons le rez de chaussé de 130m², l’étage est composé de 2 locatifs T3 53m² et T2 de 42m². Les deux appartements se louent très bien, lors de la dernière mise en location, j’ai eut 50 dépôts de dossiers en 18 heures… Nous n’avons encore jamais augmenté les loyers. Les loyers sont 970€ hors charges (550€ pour le T3 et 420€ pour le T2).

Nous sommes sur une sorte d’entre deux, entre l’immeuble de rapport et l’achat de RP qui nous permet de pouvoir nous loger décemment dans un quartier dont nous n’aurions plus les moyens. Nous travaillons tous les deux dans des entreprises du privé et avons environ 3200€ de revenus du travail.
Nous avons retapé au l’immeuble au fur et à mesure, nous avons fait une extensions de 35m². Aujourd’hui nous devons encore 158000€ sur 13 ans de loyers à1.30% à la banque.

Sur le site des impôts les montants des ventes sont délirants, sur un prix moyen affiné des données de la zone on serait à 2900€ x surface…

N’ayant plus de grosses dépense nous allons pouvoir dégager un peu de trésorerie et allons regarder pour une petite maison (également pour dégager mes 5 ou 6m cubes d’outillages)…

]]> Par : sylvain Mauhourat https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113131 Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:43:34 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113131 Salut Guillaume
c’est sur que vu la différence de mensualité y a pas photos.
quand on dit qu’il faut absolument acheté sa RP, ça concerne surtout les gens qui n’achètent pas de locatif, qui n’achète rien et qui reste locataire toute leur vie

]]> Par : DIDIER https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113100 Sun, 22 Apr 2018 11:33:22 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113100 Bonjour Guillaume et bonjour à tous.
Pour ma part, j’ai fait construire ma RP en 2009, ma vision de l’immobilier et de l’investissement n’était pas du tout la même qu’aujourd’hui !
Pour autant, je paye 650 euros de crédit pour ma maison, je louerai l’équivalent sans doute 750 à 800 euros dans mon village. Donc pour l’instant, je pense que c’est un bon deal de la garder même si je sais que ce n’est pas un actif et qu’elle nous coûte plus qu’une location (aménagement, travaux ). On met plus d’argent dans sa propriété que dans sa location. Finalement, malgré l’évolution de ma vision de l’investissement et mon patrimoine locatif en développement, l’investissement de manière raisonné et avec mes moyens de l’époque (2009) dans ma RP, ne constitue pas un frein pour mes investissements locatifs et c’est bien ça le principal !
Je pense à l’image de cet article, que si on bouge régulièrement il faut rester locataire, si le prix de l’immobilier est fort il vaut mieux rester locataire mais si l’achat ou la construction permet d’obtenir un prix raisonnable et une mensualité inférieure à un loyer donc l’aventure de la propriété est judicieuse.
Bonne continuation dans vos investissements.

]]> Par : Guillaume https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113099 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:15:16 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113099 En réponse à Quentin georges.

Salut Quentin, bien entendu que je me souviens de toi ! 🙂
Bon courage pour ta division..et la gestion avec 5 LCD, c’est ambitieux !

]]> Par : Quentin georges https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113098 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:01:33 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113098 Hello Guillaume,
Ca faisait un bail je sais pas si tu te souviens de moi lol

Bref, sympa l’article, ça m’a fait sourire car je suis en pleine réflexion. J’ai acheté un bien que je vais diviser en cinq pour faire de la LCD et je commence déjà à me projeter sur le futur : acheter un autre investissement locatif ou viser une RP (… pour un achat revente et garder du cash pour avoir une assise financière solide).

Wait and see!

Quentin

]]> Par : Guillaume Lanvin https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113097 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:52:11 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113097 En réponse à Stéphane.

Bonjour Stéphane,
Dans ton cas, ça a l’air d’être un bon calcul en effet !
Bonne journée !

]]> Par : Guillaume Lanvin https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113096 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:51:05 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113096 En réponse à Frédéric Pehuet.

Bonjour Frédéric,
Merci pour ce long commentaire qui prouve bien qu’on peut tout à fait opérer un virage à 180° à n’importe quel moment de sa vie !
Il n’est jamais trop tard pour bien faire, le tout étant de ne pas s’enfoncer quand on constate qu’on a pris le mauvais chemin.
Voyager dans des pays à « faible niveau de vie » est un truc qui nous tente bien aussi. Encore quelques années avant que nos enfants soient autonomes, et on pourra penser sérieusement passer quelques mois de l’année ailleurs 😉
Bravo en tout cas et bonne continuation !

]]> Par : Guillaume https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113095 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:42:20 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113095 En réponse à Yann MARJAULT.

Salut Yann,
Content que cet article t’ait aidé dans ta reflexion même si elle semblait déjà bien murie.
Bon bah il ne te reste plus qu’a déménager pour une autre location mais avec une belle terrasse cette fois-ci.
J’espère qu’on pourra bientôt y boire quelques bières bien fraiches.

]]> Par : Stéphane https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113094 Fri, 20 Apr 2018 08:23:42 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113094 Bonjour Guillaume,
Merci pour cet article rassurant, je suis dans la même situation que vous et la question sur l’achat de ma RP revient très souvent dans chaque visite d’appart.
Avec un loyer de 641€ pour un bien hypercentre de 60 m2 estimé à 230k€, j’ai encore de la marge pour investir.
Dans l’attente de vos nouvelles,
Stéphane

]]> Par : Frédéric Pehuet https://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/jai-lache-132-000-e-a-proprio/#comment-113093 Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:36:35 +0000 http://immeuble-de-rapport.fr/?p=2887#comment-113093 Bonjour les alcooliques. Mijotos et Pina Colada le temps d’écrire un article de 20 mns, ça a du bon! Skål.. (Je suis résident norvégien)..
Merci pour cet article Guillaume. Comme pour les autres d’ailleurs..
Merci à ta réponse Yann.
Merci à tous les autres et futurs d’être là.
Oui, les discussions sur achat / location vont toujours ou souvent du côté de l’achat pour la RP selon mes amis.
Or aujourd’hui, et ton article le démontre bien Guillaume, louer en centre ville de grande ville revient aujourd’hui encore moins cher que d’acheter.
Les calculs sont faciles à effectuer avec toutes les données que l’on trouve sur le net. MeilleursAgents est très complet et hyper lisible.
Ainsi au même tarif mensuel, autant prendre une grande surface ou garder du potentiel pour acheter en parallèle ailleurs.
Pour ma part, à 54 ans, ma nouvelle RP (maison en Norvège) n’est pas terminée de régler – suite à une séparation – et l’investissement dans ma société (créée 11 ans de cela) m’a privé de revenus d’autant plus que j’ai du cessé mon activité l’automne dernier pour manque de fonds propres.
Mes enfants étant quasi indépendants (modèle anglo-saxons!), j’ai fait mes calculs.
Je revends tout pour investir dans de l’immobilier de rapport; je voyage dans des pays à faible niveau de vie – Asie principalement – et relouerai un petit bien pour moi-même d’ici 2 ans pour assurer mes vieux jours qui sont encore loin.
Si j’avais su et surtout mieux réfléchis il y a 15 ans (voire plus tôt), j’aurai commencé ma vie par de l’investissement dans des immeubles de rapport afin d’être tranquille financièrement plus tard. Ce qui n’est pas le cas aujourd’hui! Juste le temps de me refaire une santé financière. Il n’est jamais trop tard.
C’est en tout le langage d’approche que j’adopte ces derniers temps pour mes enfants de 20 ans.
Ils travaillent beaucoup déjà à leur âge et je leur ai proposé d’investir d’ici 2 ans de cette façon. Ils auront toujours loisirs à 30 ans d’acheter leur résidence principale plus tard avec leur conjoint. Et sans doute avec des prix à la baisse, car si l’inflation tend à repartir, les prix vont enfin commencé à baisser.
Pour ma part, je démarre une nouvelle vie en investissant (en France) d’ici la fin de l’année une fois que tous mes biens seront vendus. Au vu de mes accidents de parcours en 20 années, je puis vous assurer que le matériel ne guide plus mes pas, ni mes réflexions. Au contraire.
Je suis ravi d’avoir pu tomber sur ton blog Guillaume et de voir toute l’énergie positive qui se dégage des différents échanges. Peu, mais constructifs!
Ceci dit, je ne crois pas au hasard.
Je vous souhaite bonne chance à tous.
Et soyez heureux! C’est le principal et c’est gage de bonne santé (dixit Voltaire; ce à quoi j’adhère à 200%).
Takk. Merci à vous.
Au plaisir de continuer à vous (re)lire.
Frédéric

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